manishs7
09-24 04:54 PM
Consider the scenario:
Two guys (A and B) come to US in 2005, both do not have MS and experience less than 5 years. Therefore both not elligible for EB2 on 2005. They are from a retrogressed country.
A does MS and joins job in 2007, becomes eligible for EB2 and files GC on 2007.
B joins a job on 2005 that do not need MS and experience and files for EB3.
Till 2010 both of them did not get GC. But B crossed 5 years of experience and from EB3 to EB2. Now B's priority date is 2005, although he was not elligible for EB2 at that time.
Although A was elligible for EB2 in 2007 earlier than B (2010), A is pushed behind B.
SHould it be acceptable to people like A? And there is not one or two pleale like B, thousands arer doing that?
If you see my priority date you will understand I am not saying this for myself. I have a bro and friends who are facing this isssue.
Therefore EB2s who are from mid 2006 onwards will really get pushed back..
I see this porting simillar to the labor substitition.. Till it was in place it was legal although thousands bought labors and that is one main reason EB2 had retrogressed back to 2000. I predict simillar thing is happending again, people are paying money to the desi employers to file perm in EB2 again pretty soon same tertrogression will happen to EB2 I if any urgent action is not taken.
I hace passed this stage.. now its for you all to decide..
Mr RSharama, it's 'A's ignorance of the process. He should be aware at the time of starting the Masters that GC is based on the position in the queue ( no body's gives a rat's if the person in front of you is a retard). Porting was legal in 2005 and it is now. there is no change in Law.
You can't compare porting with labor substitution. For porting, you have to go through the complete process and not just throw some dollars.
Same logic applies to people who say "I was eligible to file for EB2, but my employer/lawyer forced me to file on EB3".
It's the ignorance of process, if you are eligible for EB2 .. go join any other company.. it's America .. for God's sake..
If it doesn't suit me it's injustice.
Two guys (A and B) come to US in 2005, both do not have MS and experience less than 5 years. Therefore both not elligible for EB2 on 2005. They are from a retrogressed country.
A does MS and joins job in 2007, becomes eligible for EB2 and files GC on 2007.
B joins a job on 2005 that do not need MS and experience and files for EB3.
Till 2010 both of them did not get GC. But B crossed 5 years of experience and from EB3 to EB2. Now B's priority date is 2005, although he was not elligible for EB2 at that time.
Although A was elligible for EB2 in 2007 earlier than B (2010), A is pushed behind B.
SHould it be acceptable to people like A? And there is not one or two pleale like B, thousands arer doing that?
If you see my priority date you will understand I am not saying this for myself. I have a bro and friends who are facing this isssue.
Therefore EB2s who are from mid 2006 onwards will really get pushed back..
I see this porting simillar to the labor substitition.. Till it was in place it was legal although thousands bought labors and that is one main reason EB2 had retrogressed back to 2000. I predict simillar thing is happending again, people are paying money to the desi employers to file perm in EB2 again pretty soon same tertrogression will happen to EB2 I if any urgent action is not taken.
I hace passed this stage.. now its for you all to decide..
Mr RSharama, it's 'A's ignorance of the process. He should be aware at the time of starting the Masters that GC is based on the position in the queue ( no body's gives a rat's if the person in front of you is a retard). Porting was legal in 2005 and it is now. there is no change in Law.
You can't compare porting with labor substitution. For porting, you have to go through the complete process and not just throw some dollars.
Same logic applies to people who say "I was eligible to file for EB2, but my employer/lawyer forced me to file on EB3".
It's the ignorance of process, if you are eligible for EB2 .. go join any other company.. it's America .. for God's sake..
If it doesn't suit me it's injustice.
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abq_gc
08-18 02:36 PM
What is the "LOWER HANGING BALLS" AND "LOWER HANGING SHIT" means? Why can't these assholes approve all the old cases and then move the dates to 2003 or 2004 or even 2006.
These type of analogy is nothing but a bullshit. USCIS under pressure??? What pressure? Who do they care? Why should they worry? Whole immigration system is a circus(jumbo, gemini circus) playing with our lives and with full of jokers making fun of us.
Exactly... there is no such thing as LOW HANGING BALLS.... they shuld be fair to everyone... this is just a case of discrimination... first make all these useless categoreis... EB-1, eb2 blah blah..... i mean cummon who the fuck are they to decide how important my work is.... or under what category it falls... i thought the americans considered all work equal.. and respected everyone... well that was my impression before coming here... anyways.... so much fucking hipocrisy....
These type of analogy is nothing but a bullshit. USCIS under pressure??? What pressure? Who do they care? Why should they worry? Whole immigration system is a circus(jumbo, gemini circus) playing with our lives and with full of jokers making fun of us.
Exactly... there is no such thing as LOW HANGING BALLS.... they shuld be fair to everyone... this is just a case of discrimination... first make all these useless categoreis... EB-1, eb2 blah blah..... i mean cummon who the fuck are they to decide how important my work is.... or under what category it falls... i thought the americans considered all work equal.. and respected everyone... well that was my impression before coming here... anyways.... so much fucking hipocrisy....
GCcomesoon
06-09 01:37 PM
Hi
I recived the case nos from TSC , they had received mine & my wife's applications ( 485, 765,131 ) on 4th June , I see one set of checks cashed.
I expect the other set to be cleared some time Mon-Tues
The case nos start with SRC
Thanks
GCcomesoon
I recived the case nos from TSC , they had received mine & my wife's applications ( 485, 765,131 ) on 4th June , I see one set of checks cashed.
I expect the other set to be cleared some time Mon-Tues
The case nos start with SRC
Thanks
GCcomesoon
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gc_aspirant_prasad
07-09 05:02 PM
There is a 99% chance of a TV crew covering this event. I just spoke with them and they are just working out the logistics. They will reach the USCIS office at around 12 PM and said that it would be great if some of us are available around that time to talk to them.
Any D.C. area people interested in going there, please send me a private message with your name and phone number so that we can talk and work out the logistics.
WOW! great effort buddy:)
Any D.C. area people interested in going there, please send me a private message with your name and phone number so that we can talk and work out the logistics.
WOW! great effort buddy:)
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Libra
08-13 03:23 PM
Your signature shows you got saved by IV efforts, so what is your effort to support IV? Please contribute for sept rally in DC. Thanks.
I-140 approved from Texas.
I-140 approved from Texas.
ruby
07-20 11:50 AM
I have a suggestion regarding this (just a thought). Maybe some DC members can provide contact to core IV, so that when these guys go to DC, they can stay with IV members than staying in hotels. This will save some of their personal money. We should donate our airlines miles (I know this was discussed earlier also).
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chunky
09-28 10:28 AM
Did you noticed any LUD before check cashing as you got receipt from california. I filed on July 20 and no news yet.
All,
I just want to share some goods news from side.
All my checks got cashed today. I applied on July 23rd at NSC and got the receipt #'s from WAC.
I hope who ever is waiting for RN's they will get soon.
Thanks,
-rk.
All,
I just want to share some goods news from side.
All my checks got cashed today. I applied on July 23rd at NSC and got the receipt #'s from WAC.
I hope who ever is waiting for RN's they will get soon.
Thanks,
-rk.
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mita
08-08 08:37 PM
Has anyone with approval from 08/01 received welcome letter or card? My husband's I485 was approved on 08/04 but no letter or card yet. Also, mine and my son's cases are still pending, opened SR and will take infopass next week.
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sheela
11-21 02:25 PM
Mehul,
It is difficult to put in words how sad this news is. Stay positive-Our prayers will be for you and your family. Please, consider getting second/3rd opinion and some thing will work for you. Have faith in god- you should be okay.
It is difficult to put in words how sad this news is. Stay positive-Our prayers will be for you and your family. Please, consider getting second/3rd opinion and some thing will work for you. Have faith in god- you should be okay.
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vinabath
04-23 09:32 AM
I am not hitting on employers revenues, infact employer made money since two yrs because of me. The reason is, employer never got this project for me. It never had any business either with PF or with the client earlier. It was only because of my contact with the PF i got the project. i introduced the PF to my employer, have them sign a contract and since these two yrs my employer was able to place 4-5 consultants through the PF i introduced to them. Now tell me, how much my employer would have made because of me or other consultants??? Even after all this, he is being mean to me. these desi companies thirst for money is never ending. whereas consulatnts can never look up for a better life!!!!!!
You have a case buddy. Since you got the project on your own and you needed an H-1b vehicle. you have a great argument if your employer goes to the court.
You have a case buddy. Since you got the project on your own and you needed an H-1b vehicle. you have a great argument if your employer goes to the court.
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anzerraja
07-19 09:44 PM
Thanks !
I am in
$200.00 to start. Will definitely contribute more.
I am in
$200.00 to start. Will definitely contribute more.
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sayantan76
07-08 02:46 PM
It all comes down to priorities. If someone's aim to have GC at any cost, he/she will do everything to get to the finish line -- i.e. 180 days past I-485. In my opinion, GC process should be part of life, and it should not hijack 100% of time of highly skilled professional. No wonder, we see so many posts where person is waiting for AC-21 so as to get rid of "blood-sucking employer". For a neutral person, both employee and employer are using system to suit their needs.
Some people will go the extent of using term "slavery", whereas, actually, their thought process is slaved to the GC process.
And, employers know this very well and try to use to their advantage.
>> have 2 years of experience or so, think that they have certain skills and employers would not live without them
You have described it very well. I have met many of such professionals while interviewing them for jobs. But, the reality is, these same professionals are scraed of their jobs being outsourced.
Some are simple cookie cutter prgrammers and compare themselves to reasearch scientists and technologically superior.
Another thing, I have noticed is that while on H-1B, vast majority of professionals claim that they are getting paid prevaling wages, but, on the other hand, they also claim they can make upto 50% more, if they had EAD or green card. Ironic! Isn't it.
You are right. These are the rules set by current EB immigration system.
With this so called "exploitation" by whole Employment Based Immigrations, these professionals turn blind eye to whole thing after getting Green Card. Afterall they are, rightly, professionals.
How many times we see any green card holder or citizen supporting fellow immigrants?
H1 does not care for F1.
EAD does not care for H1/F1.
GC holder does not care for EAD/H1/F1
Citizens wonder why immigration level is so high.
Taking a quote from MTV Roadies program, each professional (roadie) is alone and has to look after his own best interests.
.
The exchange between Chanduv and Desi3933 has been a refreshingly objective discussion and is a welcome change from the typical hyper-reactionary posts one sees more frequently in this forum.
One of the features of the fight for EB immigration reforms we all need to be cognizant of is - that most (99%) of the members are in this fight to solve an immediate personal problem (visa situation) in a timely manner - most of us are not in it because we believe it to be a cause larger than us and a cause that demands personal sacrifice - and hence the lack of collective passion (lukewarm responses to IV sponsored drives, donation efforts etc.)
While - many have tried to compare this cause to India's independence struggle or Gandhiji's movement in South Africa - but the fundamental difference is that in both these struggles - people who led the struggles led it at a personal cost (Gandhiji willingly gave away a lucrative career to take up the struggle and so did Nehru; Netaji Bose was a Civil Services Officer and gave it up) - even the vast majority of revolutionaries (Bhagat Singh et al) were college educated professionals who could easily have had nice careers in British India.........and therein lies the fundamental difference......not one of us would willingly give up what we have for this struggle - we are in it because we are stuck in a system and want some resolution.......as soon as our particular situation gets resolved...we move on....(maybe there are a few exceptions and hats off to these folks).........and hence Desi - the answer to your question why H1 does not care for F1 and EAD does not care for H1 and so on.......it is not a collective cause - it is just a collection of individual causes - thats all - we would be fooling ourselves if we had some other grandiose visions - calling this group a cause would be the same as calling passengers on a bus one group - they are in the same bus simply because they share a part of their journey - thats it
Some people will go the extent of using term "slavery", whereas, actually, their thought process is slaved to the GC process.
And, employers know this very well and try to use to their advantage.
>> have 2 years of experience or so, think that they have certain skills and employers would not live without them
You have described it very well. I have met many of such professionals while interviewing them for jobs. But, the reality is, these same professionals are scraed of their jobs being outsourced.
Some are simple cookie cutter prgrammers and compare themselves to reasearch scientists and technologically superior.
Another thing, I have noticed is that while on H-1B, vast majority of professionals claim that they are getting paid prevaling wages, but, on the other hand, they also claim they can make upto 50% more, if they had EAD or green card. Ironic! Isn't it.
You are right. These are the rules set by current EB immigration system.
With this so called "exploitation" by whole Employment Based Immigrations, these professionals turn blind eye to whole thing after getting Green Card. Afterall they are, rightly, professionals.
How many times we see any green card holder or citizen supporting fellow immigrants?
H1 does not care for F1.
EAD does not care for H1/F1.
GC holder does not care for EAD/H1/F1
Citizens wonder why immigration level is so high.
Taking a quote from MTV Roadies program, each professional (roadie) is alone and has to look after his own best interests.
.
The exchange between Chanduv and Desi3933 has been a refreshingly objective discussion and is a welcome change from the typical hyper-reactionary posts one sees more frequently in this forum.
One of the features of the fight for EB immigration reforms we all need to be cognizant of is - that most (99%) of the members are in this fight to solve an immediate personal problem (visa situation) in a timely manner - most of us are not in it because we believe it to be a cause larger than us and a cause that demands personal sacrifice - and hence the lack of collective passion (lukewarm responses to IV sponsored drives, donation efforts etc.)
While - many have tried to compare this cause to India's independence struggle or Gandhiji's movement in South Africa - but the fundamental difference is that in both these struggles - people who led the struggles led it at a personal cost (Gandhiji willingly gave away a lucrative career to take up the struggle and so did Nehru; Netaji Bose was a Civil Services Officer and gave it up) - even the vast majority of revolutionaries (Bhagat Singh et al) were college educated professionals who could easily have had nice careers in British India.........and therein lies the fundamental difference......not one of us would willingly give up what we have for this struggle - we are in it because we are stuck in a system and want some resolution.......as soon as our particular situation gets resolved...we move on....(maybe there are a few exceptions and hats off to these folks).........and hence Desi - the answer to your question why H1 does not care for F1 and EAD does not care for H1 and so on.......it is not a collective cause - it is just a collection of individual causes - thats all - we would be fooling ourselves if we had some other grandiose visions - calling this group a cause would be the same as calling passengers on a bus one group - they are in the same bus simply because they share a part of their journey - thats it
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caliducas
09-27 05:13 PM
Our EAD has been approved - self and spouse.
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apb
09-07 02:53 PM
Scene at Consulate
IO:--> Dear applicant, You can apply for a long process to getting your PR/GC and here are the deals. Apply with high fees. Get RFE answered within limited time frame or loose. Wait for labor (go through labor pain..:-) ), do not get/expect promotion, Oh ya get your well educated spouse, Make them sit at home, make them feel unproductive, pay all your taxes, pay your social security BUT do not expect anything back, In the process if your kids age out separate them from you (send them back), If you wish to study pay highest fees, if you get promoted stand in queue again, pay frequent medical fees, AP, EAD fees, and yes YOU can always TRACK RNs for them. You can whine, post your opinions, when we change policies on the fly and create more hardships even if you have stayed here for more than 6 years, you can call up our customer service, be imaginative and get to level 2 and still get yelled at, asked to wait for 90 days (std reply), etc, but you can always go to good forum like IV and instead of working on your cause, create confusion, DEMAND action, not contribute....etc.
H1B applicant:--> SO WHAT IS THE CATCH.
IO:--> YOU THA MAN. Welcome to USA. Land of the free home of the brave. But for you there will be no freedom and for your type..stay in fear.
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IO:--> Dear applicant, You can apply for a long process to getting your PR/GC and here are the deals. Apply with high fees. Get RFE answered within limited time frame or loose. Wait for labor (go through labor pain..:-) ), do not get/expect promotion, Oh ya get your well educated spouse, Make them sit at home, make them feel unproductive, pay all your taxes, pay your social security BUT do not expect anything back, In the process if your kids age out separate them from you (send them back), If you wish to study pay highest fees, if you get promoted stand in queue again, pay frequent medical fees, AP, EAD fees, and yes YOU can always TRACK RNs for them. You can whine, post your opinions, when we change policies on the fly and create more hardships even if you have stayed here for more than 6 years, you can call up our customer service, be imaginative and get to level 2 and still get yelled at, asked to wait for 90 days (std reply), etc, but you can always go to good forum like IV and instead of working on your cause, create confusion, DEMAND action, not contribute....etc.
H1B applicant:--> SO WHAT IS THE CATCH.
IO:--> YOU THA MAN. Welcome to USA. Land of the free home of the brave. But for you there will be no freedom and for your type..stay in fear.
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pamposh
09-15 12:40 PM
Friends,
I have created a Shared Spreadsheet with the list of people who have pledged in favor of this effort.
http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=pgWehhQEb3jqwsRC8fcKLTQ&hl=en#
Everyone can view it, but unfortunately, i didn'y think it was ideal for everyone to edit. I will be more than happy to grant Edit access to a few more folks who are willing to help. Also, from security point of view, i think we should add our IV handle instead of real name. Since we have email ID's and ph#, we can be in touch as soon as it it time for action.
Please keep sending me ur details to add to this list. Remember, we only proceed if we have atleast 1000 pledged members.
I will keep publishing this sheet from time to time on this thread so people know.
Please keep pouring in with ur suggestions.
My suggestion, please do not make the phone number and email ids available in public. Many (like me) may not like any/everyone knowing my phone number and email id.
we could just hide these two columns... just a thought.
I have created a Shared Spreadsheet with the list of people who have pledged in favor of this effort.
http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=pgWehhQEb3jqwsRC8fcKLTQ&hl=en#
Everyone can view it, but unfortunately, i didn'y think it was ideal for everyone to edit. I will be more than happy to grant Edit access to a few more folks who are willing to help. Also, from security point of view, i think we should add our IV handle instead of real name. Since we have email ID's and ph#, we can be in touch as soon as it it time for action.
Please keep sending me ur details to add to this list. Remember, we only proceed if we have atleast 1000 pledged members.
I will keep publishing this sheet from time to time on this thread so people know.
Please keep pouring in with ur suggestions.
My suggestion, please do not make the phone number and email ids available in public. Many (like me) may not like any/everyone knowing my phone number and email id.
we could just hide these two columns... just a thought.
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amitjoey
07-05 05:32 PM
Dear All,
How about we all show up at DC coming Monday! What would be the most efficient and quickest process in getting everybody involved?:
Regards
VS
That has been discussed before, the required permits to assemble are not easily granted.
How about we all show up at DC coming Monday! What would be the most efficient and quickest process in getting everybody involved?:
Regards
VS
That has been discussed before, the required permits to assemble are not easily granted.
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joshraj
10-03 04:50 PM
Anyone with filing date on July 27, post on http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=14095
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reachthepalace
09-13 11:40 AM
Received note from my lawyers today on I-140/I-485 receipt at NSC
PD: June 2007
Labor:EB2
140/485 filed: July 27, 2007
Received at NSC: July 30, 2007 (Don't know who signed etc.)
Recept dated: Sept 6, 2007
-D
Not attending DC rally due to personal reasons.
PD: June 2007
Labor:EB2
140/485 filed: July 27, 2007
Received at NSC: July 30, 2007 (Don't know who signed etc.)
Recept dated: Sept 6, 2007
-D
Not attending DC rally due to personal reasons.
senthil1
01-30 02:26 PM
Actually when you are in H1b and without pay then you are out of status. You and your company are violating the law. Impact for your company is minimal if they get caught. Company could be fined for 10k to 1M based on number of violations. If they violations are so much then your company could be banned for h1b for a few years. In that case they will start different company and escape.
First impact for you is you will face problem while H1b transfer. At the time of transfer if you do not have paystubs your H1 transfer will be denied.
While processing green card USCIS could send RFE regarding this and you need to explain this and USCIS could accept or refuse.
When you are out of status for more than 6 months you are subject to ban of entry for 3 years to USA. And if you are out of status for more than 1 year you subject to 10 year ban. Again they will ask explanation before taking any action. These were extreme cases I never heard of. But if you knowlingly violate law you are taking risk knowlingly. Many cases USCIS is sympathatic. Again this case is similar to hiding tax from IRS and 80% of people get away because of lack of enforcement and 20% people those got caught and their life will be screwed completely.
H1b will not go dorment untill you change to H4.
Hi
I came to us on H4 in 2007 and the got my H1B in 2008. I am not getting a job on H1 yet so i want to know that till when the H1B be valid as I am not genarating any salery and my consultant is not running my pay roll ?
And if the H1 goes dorment then what can be done next?
First impact for you is you will face problem while H1b transfer. At the time of transfer if you do not have paystubs your H1 transfer will be denied.
While processing green card USCIS could send RFE regarding this and you need to explain this and USCIS could accept or refuse.
When you are out of status for more than 6 months you are subject to ban of entry for 3 years to USA. And if you are out of status for more than 1 year you subject to 10 year ban. Again they will ask explanation before taking any action. These were extreme cases I never heard of. But if you knowlingly violate law you are taking risk knowlingly. Many cases USCIS is sympathatic. Again this case is similar to hiding tax from IRS and 80% of people get away because of lack of enforcement and 20% people those got caught and their life will be screwed completely.
H1b will not go dorment untill you change to H4.
Hi
I came to us on H4 in 2007 and the got my H1B in 2008. I am not getting a job on H1 yet so i want to know that till when the H1B be valid as I am not genarating any salery and my consultant is not running my pay roll ?
And if the H1 goes dorment then what can be done next?
english_august
07-11 12:17 AM
A simple and easy way to spread this news would be to email the news coverage links to every one possible.
You are right and you can mail this link:
http://www.touchdownusa.org/floral/FloralProtest.html
I will keep this link updated with any new reports.
Please use this thread - http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=6305 to report all media articles - I will try to stay on top of that thread and update the main link on a regular basis.
You are right and you can mail this link:
http://www.touchdownusa.org/floral/FloralProtest.html
I will keep this link updated with any new reports.
Please use this thread - http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=6305 to report all media articles - I will try to stay on top of that thread and update the main link on a regular basis.
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